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((Luvpiggy)) Thank you so much. I will look for that book. I do feel like my situation is a lot like yours was, this person has anxiety as well, and maybe me feeling better was not what they wanted after all, when I had thought this is what we wanted for each other. Confused At any rate, your words are very helpful and I truly appreciate it!!! Smiler


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MissE, I don't know if I could ever forgive someone who nearly physicaly (with hand and fingers) killed me, and I'm not too sure if they deserve to be forgiven. All I would like to say to you is that if you cannot forgive him, just try to stop feeling guilty and try to understand what could have brought him to that place where he would do that. I think we're all born with both good and bad, and I do think some people are predisposed to certain things, but to get to a point where he did really bad things, maybe there was something in his life that happened.

I still don't know if I would forgive, but I do know that negative feelings produce negative vibes.

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Hi everyone, I am having a terrible time with this lesson and hope maybe someone can help! I get very anxious when working on the workbook. I truly feel like there are things in my life i just can't forgive, maybe someday i will feel differently but i don't know. I don't understand how i can forgive someone who is not sorry for hurting me and who has shown that in the past with forgiveness they will hurt you again. I know "forgiveness is the gift you give yourself." I know it feels so good to forgive people. But in my heart, there are just some people i think i am unable to forgive. For example four years ago i was in a relationship with a man that almost killed me. If i say i forgive him, in my heart i feel like it's a lie. What he did was wrong and nothing will ever change that. I can say i learned something from it, i've come a long way, i don't think of him much anymore but it took me years to recover physically from what he did to me and that is something i will never forget. Me forgiving him feels like i am excusing that and saying it was ok. I did forgive him the first couple times when he said he was sorry...and then proceeded to do the same thing again, and i nearly died from it. How can i forgive? I guess a little forgiving of myself to do for staying with him. My coach said in order for God to forgive our sins we have to forgive others. But growing up i was taught in church that to be forgiven you have to repent and resolve not to do the action again, so it is hard for me to comprehend forgiving someone who has even told me they aren't sorry. I grew up with an abusive mother and i felt that every time i forgave her and let her back in my life, she would behave the same way again. Maybe I am equating forgiveness with saying "oh that was ok" or letting someone who hurt me back in my life...Is it ok to say "i let this go because i dont want to hurt anymore, i will learn from this but i will never let this person back in my life again," or in my mom's case "i let this go but i still have boundaries with her and won't let her get too close to me". As i write this i wonder if what i'm also asking is what does forgiveness mean? Can it be saying, " I choose to let this go and release this person from my life. This wasn't right but i'm not goign to dwell on it anymore. I can take the positive from it." I'm so worked up over this i keep crying. I guess i'm not over my anger as much as i thought. I really am trying, and there are many things i have forgiven, but there are some that i just don't know how to. And i truly don't think i ever could. Does anyone else feel like this? Is there a difference between forgiveness and letting go?
 
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Wow, I'm not sure how I found this thread but God is moving in my life because he guided me here. I too came from an abusive marriage. I was almost killed and there were many times that I wish I would have been. When I got to the anger lesson I had to listen to it 6 times because it hit home so hard. I had pretended for years after the divorce that everything was ok, when it wasn't. It was only through counceling that I realized how scared my children were that something was going to happen to me and that this dirty little secret had seeped its way into all aspects of our lives. So it took me forever to even consider forgiving "him." For years I had just wished he was dead. And for years he still had this power over me because he knew that the fear was still there and he had been manipulating me through fear. This program has helped me so much because I am now aware that my fears were not even based upon real events (after the divorce anyway), they were more what if. So that was my first step towards healing. Then like I said after 6 times of listening to the anger lesson, I realized I had to forgive him to get the demons out of my mind. One day I just woke up and said I'm not going to be afraid anymore and I'm not going to resist him any more by fighting back because that is what he thrives on. And dare I say it, I forgave me for "allowing this to happen," as I had always put it. And then, I forgave him. I do not allow him into my life anymore by arguing and resisting. It took me a long time to get to this point and I know it could not have happened without the support that I get from this site. You all are amazing and I am sooo grateful for all of you. Thank you--Julie
 
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