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Some of you may know that i've been doing some research outside of the program and I've been looking at cognitive behavioral therapy type books and I'm learning about guilt & shoulds.

It sounded really wierd how they talked about shoulds in one of the cognitive techniques. They were mentioning about how if you have a habit of doing something then yes you should do it. I was like what!! But it makes so much sense. If you have a habit it would be completely unreasonable to just expect one day that you would break it. Are we so god-like that we cannot possibly do whatever that habit has us doing? Or are we so God-like that we have the power to instantly destroy a habit? No, that is rediculous.

You should continue the habit until you've changed it. You might think well what the heck is the diffrence? There is a huge diffrence here folks. I'm sure most of you are familiar with the idea that you can motivate yourself with a carrot or a stick. Well if you are constantly hitting yourself with a stick you are going to hurt yourself. Meaning everytime you aren't following through on your should, you are more often then not, going to feel like a failure then this feeling of failure just reinforces your feelings of inadequacy and reinforces the idea that you are a bad person!

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I'll give you an example.
I had resented my mother and dad while i was growing up because they neglected me and ignored my crys for help so I wouldn't do anything that my mother expected or to better state that, demanded! So this then resulted in both of them and many other people (family friends and such) refering to me as a lazy person or saying i'm lazy or don't be lazy. This continued on for many many years and that's how my rule of I shouldn't be lazy started. The problem this has generated is that I had considered lazyness as not doing something productive and so everytime i wasn't being productive I "felt" lazy and I felt like a failure and inadequate and I even told myself I was a bad person because i couldn't follow my rule. I didn't want to feel bad about myself (it's human nature to want to avoid pain) and so I got obsessed with doing activities. This involved spending 8 hours at a time studying even if i was too exhausted and telling myself that I don't want to do it, it involved getting obsessed with self-help stuff (which isn't too bad because I learned alot) and it even affected my other shoulds. Obsessing over 1 task ended up in me being less productive and so i told myself that I didn't do enough and I would stay up past exhaustion and get to bed late which created my expection that i should get to bed earlier.

That is just one example from my life experience. I actually sat down and wrote out all of the shoulds i could think of (I did this in a few sessions) and I believe I have about 80 shoulds so far. That is 80 diffrent ways to get dissapointment and to create more guilt and reinforce my idea that I'm a bad, rotten person. No wonder why my life was under the control of my depression and anxiety.

So if shoulds and the way to motivate us then what do we do? Well there is still the carrot! The most effective way to influence any organism, plant or bacteria is to reward the desired behavior instead of punishing the undesired behavior. Punishing leads to aversion, resentment and causes alienation & avoidance. When you tell yourself, "I should do this" or "I shouldn't do that" all day long, you better believe you'll feel drained.

So the next time you decide to face a limitation, plan a reward for after it (icecream, cookie, bath, whatever you enjoy), in advance. This way you are more inclined to follow through & less likely to beat yourself up if it wasn't perfect!



Mike


Intelligent people are ones who have knowledge and insist things to be right.

Wise people also have knowledge but they are the ones who can use it to benefit everybody instead of being right.
 
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NinjaFrodo,

Thanks for posting this. At first I started to freak a little because I worried about what I've done to my kids in my ignorance. But I quickly stopped myself and moved on to how can I apply this to myself and gain some insight.

Then I realized my biggest limitation/bad habit is eating to feel better. Its the only area where I haven't committed 100%. I started exercising and got off the caffeine, but the sugar and fast food is a tough let-go-of-it for me. But I was really encouraged by what you said. It does make sense. And I can see that the farther I go in the program, the better my eating habits are getting. I still bake and eat the brownies, but I'm cooking more at home. When I cook it's healthy so I am improving. I'll cut myself some more slack while I'm breaking this habit.

Thanks again for posting.
 
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Thank you for you reply.

It sounds like you are moving along quite well with the program. You may have some struggles with eatting better on a consistent basis however, you don't use caffine anymore, you are exercising, you cook more at home (which is healthy) and you even realize what it is that is hindering you. What you've done so far out-weighs what you are struggling with.

There is no reason to completely stop using sugar and fast food, it is alright every once in awhile and hey actually you could use this as a reward when you face limitations so you feel even more encouraged.

You're doing great, keep up the good work Smiler


Mike


Intelligent people are ones who have knowledge and insist things to be right.

Wise people also have knowledge but they are the ones who can use it to benefit everybody instead of being right.
 
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