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It is comforting to know I am not alone to have scary obsessive thoughts. Sometimes when I feel low my thoughts have moved to being sexually abused by my dad. I have no visual/audio memory evidence to support this thought so have dismissed as a 'scary obsessive' thought. My dad is a impatient man whom uses anger but did his best that he knew how to raise me and my sibblings. I realize that ownership of my emotions is with me and no one can make you feel bad about yourself.
I have read thru some of each of the posts and we all seem to have one variation or another of compulsive thoughts. It does make sense that this thought is distracting us from what really is bothering us. Someone had indicated their therapist thought it was easier to deal with obsessive thought then with real issue. This makes sense to me. We do not have to chase down these thoughts. You can turn off the 'chatterbox' as one poster said but try not to give them importance---REMEMBER-ONLY THOUGHTS, ONLY THOUGHTS. Thanks for listening! Brett |
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Hi Brett -
I have these thoughts too and they are terrible. When they come on I can't shut them off. I changed to a new position in my company about six weeks ago and they started up again about six weeks before I started. I feel ok today and they seem to be disappating a bit. I feel so ashamed. When they are gone they feel like they would never come back and then whamo there they are again. Although, today is a good day any insight anyone on how to control these better? |
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Hey Guys,
Obscure scary thoughts were one of my symtoms as well. I think I've covered the spectrum as per these thoughts. I insignificized these thoughts through working with a grat therapist in conjunction with this program. I'd like to share some things I've learned about scary thoughts: Every human has obscure thoughts pop up in their head from time to time. We however, are sensitive to negative stimuli. thus a scary thought pops up in our head and we tend to follow that thought up with alot of bad questions...i.e. Am I really capable of this? ect.....We in turn create and reinforce a circle of anxiety. A feeling follows a thought thus if we follow up a scary thought with countless "what if's" we find ourselves in a circle of anxiety. I broke this by following up a scary thought with rational responses in writing. I did this on a daily basis until my brain programmed these rational responses and broke with old dysfunctional circle of thought. I do get obscure thoughts from time to time...every human does...the fact that these thoughts initially made us anxious is pure evidence that we are incapable of carrying these thoughts out....those who find comfort in these thoughts have problems unrelated to anxiety/depression...they do not reach out for help on this forum...God Bless. |
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Michael -
Thank you so much for this great advice. I've been struggling with these over the past 10 years. I just recently told my therapist about them. I am going to try and do what you say. Thanks again.... |
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I've been feeling okay for the last few days but then just watching stuff on youtube.com made these obsessive thoughts trigger again. I like Justin Timberlake so I was watching some music videos of him and such but then it showed some videos of Britney Spears too so I watched some of that. I felt turned on but I think thats just cuz of the music videos i watched before of Justin Timberlake but these thoughts are just coming in like what if im turned on by a girl? And im trying to get them all figured about but the thoughts are just so mixed up and it feels like all this "noise" is going through my head. any advice?
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Noelle, I am no expert, but I may be able to offer some advice. First of all, I don't think it's a big deal even if you are turned on by a girl. Honestly, as humans we respond to sexual stimuli, regardless of gender. A woman's body especialy is designed to be appealing. I took an art class and it talked about how people in general (male and female) respond to the female body. So, just physiliogically speaking we are basically wired to appreciate it. And when we see a female being sexual I think we kind of imagine ourselves as that female and it brings out our instinctual sexuality. Female sexuality is a very powerful thing. I think its almost kind of contagious. I think women may be able to appreciate each others' sexuality and the power that goes with it in a unique way. I know this all probably sounds odd, but I'm just saying that I think it's alright. We can be turned on by a display of sexuality regardless of gender. Now, you should think more about who you feel a romantic connection to and more of a desire to have a relationship? Know what I mean? There is a difference. I hope I have helped. I know I was a bit confusing with my words, but I hope it came out clearly. Try not to let it scare you and accept that we all get turned on by sexuality and sensuality when it is in front of us. Ladies? Back me up on this
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Sarah,
Thank you for writing back. As I read your post, I just felt so relieved by your words. It was like okay, I'm not weird. Maybe this is normal. Especially reading the end of post when you ask me put things in perspective, it just made me realize that these are just thoughts and deep down, I know the truth. Thank you again for taking your time and writing back. Your words really helped me get through the moment. |
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Sarah Anne -
Thank you so much. I've been struggling with this off and on for I can't tell you how long. I wish I new this ages ago before the obsession got totally out of control. I will try to really keep this in mind. Thanks Again... |
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Sarah Anne is right. I've heard this so many times about our sexuality and what turns us on. When you no longer give the sexual thoughts any emotional attention (resistance) they will go away. Truly. Even people without panic attacks and OCD have these thoughts cross through their minds. They don't give them any energy - and the thoughts pass. They just let them go. No big deal.
You're OK. "Life is not about comfort. It is about living." Dr. Howard Liebgold |
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I've been having this reoccuring thought for a while and I was hoping you could give me some of your two cents. I'm starting to take better care of myself, Eating right and going to the gym, but I've been thinking what if I look at myself and start to look so good and so in shape, That i feel turned on by myself (my body?) That's just weird, Is what my brain is saying. But then i think how sometimes the scary thoughts are distractions. Am i just distracting myself with this because I'm not used to feeling good and in my brain I feel like I don't deserve it. Any input would be great.
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It's just your ego trying to keep you stuck, Noelle. That's all it is. If you did not have an opinion one way or the other about your sexuality, the thoughts would not make you feel badly. They would leave as fast as they arrived and would not come back often if at all.
Continue to soothe yourself with comforting self talk. "So what if I'm turned on by my body." In fact, go to the mirror and embrace yourself. Look into your eyes when you do that. Say wonderful things to yourself and enjoy the moment. There are wonderful workshops out there for women, in particular, where they are nude the whole weekend and learn to love their bodies as they are. Your ego is telling you something is wrong with you. There's nothing wrong with you. Keep reminding yourself of that, Noelle. "Life is not about comfort. It is about living." Dr. Howard Liebgold |
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Boon -
Great advice. I'm working on some issues myself right now and feel like I'm getting a little better each day. What about in appropriate sexual thoughts and images concerning friends and/or family. I know it sounds silly. Am I just torturing myself or is my ego just torturing myself? Any advice. What do you do when you picture vile things you know you would never do? Thanks, Jlb |
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Boon,
Your advice does help me get through the moment, But now I'm trying to get through another one. See, I watched this movie where there is this really attractive girl and I think I am feeling turned on. I know ive been scared to watch this movie so am i just triggering the fear? I'm thinking about what you say and how you should just accept it, don't fight it. So, Should I just say: There is that thought again. So what if I think that girl is attractive? So what if she has a nice body? As part of human nature, it is completely normal to react this way. Well, that does make me feel better, It's just funny. When i write it down by myself, I feel so alone but when I write it here and my brain is saying that maybe people could help give me advice, the positivity comes out more. |
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jlbjea - I know what I am saying is hard to accept at first but you'll understand once you take that step. Your healing is getting to a place where it doesn't matter one way or the other if you have the thoughts or visions. It's a tough one only because the thoughts are so "yucky" and disgusting but work with watching instead of reacting to your thoughts. Practice and you'll see the thoughts coming less and less.
Stop Obsessing by Foa and Wilson offer great phrases as well as information about this. Lee Baer's, Imp of the Mind is very helpful as well. "Oh, there are those thoughts again." "I see what is going on. Ego is having fun at my expense." The only reason the thoughts seem so overwhelming is because you resist them. Of course, they are not who you are - so why give them any energy. Noelle - Do you see how one thought replaces another and your concerns are neverending for you about your sexual thoughts? Really notice this. Don't judge it. Just notice. You are only comforted for a moment- and then another thought comes and scares you, yet again. Thoughts are mechanical. That's it. Nothing more. In and of themselves they have no power. Only the power YOU give it. Start observing and stop reacting. The more you practice the less power these thoughts will have over you. "Life is not about comfort. It is about living." Dr. Howard Liebgold |
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Boon -
Thank you for the great advice. I feel like I am finally starting to learn so much about myself and the way my mind works. You are right. I can watch the thoughts and images and know that they are not who and what I am. Thanks again, Jlb |
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